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23savage: "I don’t think I can achieve 13K MMR in EU, they have a lot of good players. SEA is the easiest region to climb MMR"

Talon Esports star carry Nuengnara "23savage" Teeramahanon admits he wouldn't reach the 13,000 MMR milestone in Europe. In an interview with, he spoke about setting the new world record, SEA pub specifics, trying to get 14,000, and Chinese "actors" playing in the region.

I think it’ll be more difficult because, for me, SEA is the easiest pub. In Europe, I don’t think I can achieve 13k MMR because they have a lot of good players. And some of them are rank #200 but they are so good. SEA is the easiest region to climb MMR, at least for me.

Nuengnara "23savage" Teeramahanon
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Last 30 MMR points took a week to win

I got 12,970 MMR since a week ago and I kept losing in the last game, and it was always on the edge. The pub games really depend a lot on luck, some days you get good teammates, and some days you get actors (players that are hired to throw games on purpose).

Nuengnara "23savage" Teeramahanon

Are there "actors" from other regions in SEA?

Yes, especially from the Chinese region. They always have someone who buys accounts and just plays for fun. The actors come and go. They take a break for three months and come again. I remember this one player with the same voice. He always picks carry Pudge and buys Boots of Speed.

Nuengnara "23savage" Teeramahanon

On 14,000 MMR

It’ll be too hard because Rank #2 in SEA is not even 12K MMR, he has about 11.7K MMR. And because of this, the queue time takes more than 40 minutes per game. While queueing I can even browse Netflix, try and find some good movies to watch, play FIFA, and just forget that I’m queueing.

Nuengnara "23savage" Teeramahanon
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On Talon's roster changes

So, after we lost at TI11, I told our management we need Jabz. As we can see in the result, the team doesn’t have a proper captain, and Jabz is the best captain in SEA at the moment. There’s also Tims, but he’s playing pos 4 and we don’t want to lose Q, he’s a really good player and has potential. So we needed an offlaner and a captain, and Jabz is the best player, so I talked to him after we got eliminated.

At first, Jabz wanted to continue with Fnatic and we were in a tough spot. Fortunately, Fnatic decided to drop Jabz, so we got him for free. It’s the perfect scenario for Talon.

Nuengnara «23savage» Teeramahanon

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